Totem
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Post by Totem on Nov 3, 2011 9:01:15 GMT -6
If we are starting over lets do it on a good foundation. Good forum software to begin with, this forum is ugly on the eyes and feels more dated than Mojo.
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Post by ShawnMR on Nov 3, 2011 9:08:56 GMT -6
Hi Shawn, Cant you move to PHPBB3. Proboards is not in the same ballpark as PHPBB3. It would be an option, but still wouldn't allow for full ownership of the forum data (from what I can tell).
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Post by adim on Nov 3, 2011 9:13:08 GMT -6
I kind of agree. This board has some great features updated from what BOM had, but it does still seem a little old. And I can't get used to the layout/color scheme, seems amateurish.
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Post by ShawnMR on Nov 3, 2011 9:14:36 GMT -6
The more I think about it, I think it would be best to have a forum on BOT. If you do decide to keep a Mojo Refugees forum it would be great if it could be moved to phpbb3 - I frequent other sites with that platform and I prefer it. Aren't there free ones you can get if there are ads? I don't mind ads. I've seen several mention this now as well, would you (or anyone else) have any reasons as to why you'd like to see phpBB3 specifically? I can't go into much detail quite yet, but someone else has suggested using another platform that is quite reputable. It does have a bit of a different feel, but would have a lot more customization options. Some examples: forums.oreilly.com/boards.nbc.com/nbc/index.php?act=idxforums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/forum/79-call-of-cthulhu/forums.bethsoft.com/They use IP.Board 3 from Invision. If we do start a new, permanent board this and phpBB3 are the two options on the table right now.
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Post by Totem on Nov 3, 2011 9:16:25 GMT -6
WOKJ and Filmgasm type forum is the best option, very easy on the eyes and to use. Those are pretty ugly.
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Post by Water Bottle on Nov 3, 2011 9:17:02 GMT -6
WOKJ and Filmgasm type forum is the best option, very easy on the eyes and to use. Those are pretty ugly. Really? I find Filmgasm and WOKJ hard on the eye. (And honestly, it gives you the freedom to make it look like you want, even make it look like Filmgasm's forum type if you really want)
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Post by ShawnMR on Nov 3, 2011 9:17:38 GMT -6
WOKJ and Filmgasm type forum is the best option, very easy on the eyes and to use. Those are pretty ugly. Keep in mind Invision is about as customizable as it gets. I'm told, if wanted, it could be made to look exactly like the old Mojo (hypothetically).
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Post by Totem on Nov 3, 2011 9:25:31 GMT -6
My opinion shouldn't really count haha I'm clueless with this stuff.
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Post by fake on Nov 3, 2011 9:27:25 GMT -6
The more I think about it, I think it would be best to have a forum on BOT. If you do decide to keep a Mojo Refugees forum it would be great if it could be moved to phpbb3 - I frequent other sites with that platform and I prefer it. Aren't there free ones you can get if there are ads? I don't mind ads. I've seen several mention this now as well, would you (or anyone else) have any reasons as to why you'd like to see phpBB3 specifically? I can't go into much detail quite yet, but someone else has suggested using another platform that is quite reputable. It does have a bit of a different feel, but would have a lot more customization options. Some examples: forums.oreilly.com/boards.nbc.com/nbc/index.php?act=idxforums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/forum/79-call-of-cthulhu/forums.bethsoft.com/They use IP.Board 3 from Invision. If we do start a new, permanent board this and phpBB3 are the two options on the table right now. Those forums, for some reason, are taking a long time to open on my system.
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Post by ShawnMR on Nov 3, 2011 9:30:12 GMT -6
One other to note is that if we start a new, permanent board...whatever we start with is probably what we're stuck with. In other words, unless its fully owned data (which a free board wouldn't be), it might not be possible to ever migrate posts and profiles if we ever decided to upgrade to a better platform.
It may not even be necessary, but just something to consider with regards to future-proofing. Admittedly, if we go the route of a new board, I'm torn right now.
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Post by fake on Nov 3, 2011 9:34:25 GMT -6
I say Shawn, start a forum with paid hosting (unless the cost is too high). A lot of us guys would like to contribute.
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Post by scottb on Nov 3, 2011 9:36:24 GMT -6
Yeah I don't know if proboards allows data to be transfered.
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Post by neo on Nov 3, 2011 9:36:38 GMT -6
One other to note is that if we start a new, permanent board...whatever we start with is probably what we're stuck with. In other words, unless its fully owned data (which a free board wouldn't be), it might not be possible to ever migrate posts and profiles if we ever decided to upgrade to a better platform. It may not even be necessary, but just something to consider with regards to future-proofing. Admittedly, if we go the route of a new board, I'm torn right now. Lets stay here ShawnMR. After BOM crashed we lost a ton of threads that will never get back and now we are trying to rebuild from scratch (minus those early threads). If we move again will have to create another 30+ threads to keep up. This is great we can embed images and videos and is easier to use IMO. I wouldn't mind moving sites like you mentioned only if we could transfer this board completely.
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Post by Water Bottle on Nov 3, 2011 9:42:55 GMT -6
One other to note is that if we start a new, permanent board...whatever we start with is probably what we're stuck with. In other words, unless its fully owned data (which a free board wouldn't be), it might not be possible to ever migrate posts and profiles if we ever decided to upgrade to a better platform. It may not even be necessary, but just something to consider with regards to future-proofing. Admittedly, if we go the route of a new board, I'm torn right now. Lets stay here ShawnMR. After BOM crashed we lost a ton of threads that will never get back and now we are trying to rebuild from scratch (minus those early threads). If we move again will have to create another 30+ threads to keep up. This is great we can embed images and videos and is easier to use IMO. I wouldn't mind moving sites like you mentioned only if we could transfer this board completely. Well considering you guys were told not to create 30+threads to keep up on this site, I mean... I don't think we should stick with a site just out of laziness, especially when there's much better options out there.
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Post by keysersoze on Nov 3, 2011 9:45:07 GMT -6
Hi Shawn, I think its impossible for any forum to duplicate mojo forums. BOM is THE most popular BO site in the world. I was looking up at alexa.com to get some stats and numbers are something like below. What made BOM so active was the site is/was so popular that it constantly pulled in new users some of whom joined the forums. I dont think its possible for any blog/forum to come even 1/1000 of that.
I think if you just want a forum to interact with the circle who were already very close at BOM, I would recommend just keeping this forum or may be look at Facebook/Google+ circle etc. Other crazy option is to ask Nikki to open a forum at deadline :-). That should pull in new users as that site looks to be very popular in US at least. SITE GLOBAL RANK US RANK 1) hollywoodreporter.com 1903 507 2) deadline.com 4211 1045 3) BOM 2781 1384 4) variety.com 9159 3021 5) the-numbers 31382 10826 6) hsx.com 38520 12591 7)boxoffice.com 75628 37130 8)boxofficeguru 145253 51662 9)ercboxoffice 1071272 345484 10)worldofKJ 557529 N/A 11) filmgasm 2688133 N/A 12) boxofficetheory 5803423 N/A
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Post by alfredunicorn on Nov 3, 2011 9:46:04 GMT -6
I'm very much in support of building a new forum. No need to stick with something old and ugly. I think most of us would be willing to chip in if the cost isn't too high. It's really saddening what's happening,but change can be good and make this community even closer.
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Post by Impact on Nov 3, 2011 9:49:16 GMT -6
Yes it is the most popular box office site and it is still going to be great. IMDB is still the biggest movie site as well.
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Post by Totem on Nov 3, 2011 9:53:33 GMT -6
Lets stay here ShawnMR. After BOM crashed we lost a ton of threads that will never get back and now we are trying to rebuild from scratch (minus those early threads). If we move again will have to create another 30+ threads to keep up. This is great we can embed images and videos and is easier to use IMO. I wouldn't mind moving sites like you mentioned only if we could transfer this board completely. Well considering you guys were told not to create 30+threads to keep up on this site, I mean... I don't think we should stick with a site just out of laziness, especially when there's much better options out there. Exactly, if we are going to do this thing lets do it right.
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Post by Totem on Nov 3, 2011 10:00:45 GMT -6
I hope a decision is made and finalized before BD1 OW.
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Post by ShawnMR on Nov 3, 2011 10:27:42 GMT -6
Announcement coming shortly.
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Post by tawasal on Nov 3, 2011 10:31:19 GMT -6
Take us to the next level.
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Post by giantcalbears on Nov 3, 2011 10:32:40 GMT -6
Well considering you guys were told not to create 30+threads to keep up on this site, I mean... I don't think we should stick with a site just out of laziness, especially when there's much better options out there. Exactly, if we are going to do this thing lets do it right. This site is likely a TEMPORARY solution guys, meaning you shouldn't put anything on here like Mojo you aren't willing to lose if we move again. Just sit tight people, Shawn will give us a definitive answer soon.
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Post by xube on Nov 3, 2011 11:31:51 GMT -6
I think we need to encourage more people to participate in the polls! There's nearly 300 users, and only 45 people have placed a vote. The more people vote, the better idea Shawn has of what the community wants! I believe this could be related to the confusing nature of the questions (and potential answers) in the poll: "If its not on BOT, I'll still post here." (?) I end up reading the question & the options multiple times to understand.... (do you want the poll to mostly be about having a forum hosted here on proboards VS one hosted directly on BoxOfficeTheory (which is what the answers seem to be about).... or do you want to know how we feel about you hosting a permanent alternative board to the one that was at BoxOfficeMojo (which is what the poll question seems to be about)? Why not just have the poll state directly: 1. "I would prefer to have a forum directly on the BOT site" 2. "Please Keep The Forum Here" 3. "It does not matter where the forum is located" (By the way, you should realize that many of us are coming to this site for the very first time and even the BOT letters are unfamiliar. Took me awhile to figure out what the heck that was. It refers to "Box Office Theory" for others who don't know that). I am guessing that perhaps you should be asking whether folks would post on a board hosted by you regardless of whether *Box Office Mojo* returns in some form since you reference Box Office Mojo in the poll question (isn't that the most important thing to consider here?) ShawnMR, I am a long time / old time member of the boxofficemojo site (since 2002 I believe). Can I ask you if the moderators over at BOMojo were ever given an indication that the forums were being pulled or did everyone just arrive one day and it was all gone? Please consider creating a home landing page here for the google search bots that references "BoxOfficeMojo" so that when people search google for BOM they will see links to your new landing page. Since you have complete control over BoxOfficeTheory, the landing page should be based at your BOT site and it should have a link directing folks to this forum (if this is the location that you ultimately choose to use as your forum site). I only found this site from a posting over on IMDB mentioning it (and it is probable that IMDB will delete that post at some point). One other thing Shawn, I have a number of boards on php (free board software) and you should seriously consider using that software as you would own the contents. Continuing on a board like this where you do not own the content means that if at some point in the future you choose to expand or sell your site, all of the history and posts generated here would be lost (similar to what has apparently happened at Box Office Mojo.) I have seen many boards based on proboards software shut down or limited based on web traffic (the owners of this software are VERY open to listening to larger corporations who contact them stating that whatever may be going on here is in conflict with their official corporate sites). The owners of proboards rather than spend any money contesting such claims will simply shut down your board (without warning --- sound familiar?) I have seen this happen many times with proboards. Didn't Brandon Gray sell his site to iMDB at some point for a profit? You should preserve that option for yourself using php with a Box Office Theory forum (great name for a site by the way). Good luck.
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Post by snitch on Nov 3, 2011 12:39:01 GMT -6
Let's not jump from board to board.
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Post by adim on Nov 3, 2011 12:42:02 GMT -6
Let's not jump from board to board. Box Office Theory is going to create a board, and that will be the final, official one. It will be worth it because the forum software should be a significant improvement over this forum- though this has been a great transition/backup board.
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