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Post by kayumanggames on Nov 4, 2011 23:05:21 GMT -6
IN. 400 M.
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Post by fmpro on Nov 5, 2011 13:10:10 GMT -6
I would be so dissapointed if that happend.. Witch it wont  |
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Post by magic on Nov 6, 2011 0:48:19 GMT -6
In. 360M.
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Post by AA!™ on Nov 6, 2011 1:14:33 GMT -6
In...of course.  425m |
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Post by Ariadne on Nov 6, 2011 6:00:50 GMT -6
What the hell - In. 380m
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Post by Algren on Nov 6, 2011 7:53:50 GMT -6
$70M opening
$220M total
$600M WW
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Post by neo on Nov 6, 2011 8:15:38 GMT -6
Why so low? Even with 3D?
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Post by firedeep on Nov 6, 2011 8:24:41 GMT -6
Neo, please count me in.
140M/375M
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Post by firedeep on Nov 6, 2011 8:26:23 GMT -6
$70M opening $220M total $600M WW That's impossible, Algren. |
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Post by Algren on Nov 6, 2011 8:27:21 GMT -6
3D isn't a big factor in the USA. It doesn't make more people attend, but the tickets are more expensive, so they cancel each other out. The main factor is "draw", is there enough of it? I see enough to warrant $220M, but not much more.
People were disappointed with Iron Man 2, so I expect a reduction from that. Captain America and Thor only made $180M, and HULK and The Incredible Hulk were even worse than that (mid $130M's). I think it'll be a good movie, and I'm looking forward to it, but I don't understand the crazy predictions from everyone. This is not the event picture that I think Marvelare hoping it to be.
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Post by greyghost on Nov 6, 2011 8:28:14 GMT -6
355 m
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Post by Algren on Nov 6, 2011 8:29:20 GMT -6
$70M opening $220M total $600M WW That's impossible, Algren. Humans on Pluto is impossible.  |
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Post by neo on Nov 6, 2011 8:40:17 GMT -6
If this is the so called IM3 why would it fall appox. 100M from IM2? Even if 3D is not a factor DOM that is 380M OS and 3D is a factor OS. Even Thor did 267M OS. This will have the team aspect to it. We know how individual movies perform, but we don't know how this type of movie will do, the only comparison is JLA but that hasn't come out yet.
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Post by Algren on Nov 6, 2011 8:43:02 GMT -6
Yes, we don't know how it will do because we've never seen a team movie before. So, why then do you think it is going to increase ?
Exactly. We all have a standpoint on this, and there's no point throwing "we don't know how this will pan out" in my face, because that reason goes for all of us, not just me.
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Post by firedeep on Nov 6, 2011 9:08:15 GMT -6
3D isn't a big factor in the USA. It doesn't make more people attend, but the tickets are more expensive, so they cancel each other out. The main factor is "draw", is there enough of it? I see enough to warrant $220M, but not much more. People were disappointed with Iron Man 2, so I expect a reduction from that. Captain America and Thor only made $180M, and HULK and The Incredible Hulk were even worse than that (mid $130M's). I think it'll be a good movie, and I'm looking forward to it, but I don't understand the crazy predictions from everyone. This is not the event picture that I think Marvelare hoping it to be. Yeah, what you think is very reasonable. These marvel SH movies all some kinds of underperformed. However, there is one thing that TA will much be much much bigger than these above ones. The cast is much bigger and the budget is much bigger. Also, it is terribly EPIC to see the these heroes fighting together on the big screen. |
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Post by neo on Nov 6, 2011 9:12:52 GMT -6
Just imagine the Midgard Serpent and Loki and his army against The Avengers that will beyond EPIC.
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Post by Algren on Nov 6, 2011 9:55:11 GMT -6
Also, it is terribly EPIC to see the these heroes fighting together on the big screen. Is it really though? The average Batman movie has loads of characters. Take Batman Forever, for example; Batman, Robin, Riddler and Two-Face....and that didn't do double the box office gross of Batman Returns. I know, not a great example. But how about The Expendables...all those great names, and still only $103M. Essentially, this is an ensemble cast movie, and it shouldn't be treated any differently because of its superhero theme. Some do well, some underperform. I think putting the reason for this doing well all on the shoulders of "everybody is in it" is naive. Just because Thor made $180M, and Captain America made $180M, and Iron Man made $300M, doesn't mean that this will automatically make $660M. Get me? |
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Post by tommyb on Nov 6, 2011 10:02:57 GMT -6
Out.
200-225 Domestic total
I agree with Algren. I love Marvel comics, but I don't see any reason for this to make significantly better than Thor and Captain America, (or even Iron Man 2) especially when none of those films had particularly strong word of mouth, legs, or that whole "rewatch" factor. And let's be honest, neither CA nor Thor wowed mainstream, non-comic-book-geek audiences. I undertsand the appeal of a bunch of superheroes together, fighting bad guys, but this is strictly fanboy/girl appeal.
Oh, and we have seen superhero teams onscreen before. Did everyone forget that we've had three X-men films?
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Post by neo on Nov 6, 2011 11:30:21 GMT -6
^But never before this way. Adjust X3 and you get 284M and add for 3D and IMAX and you get to 300M+
Like comic book sales, what sales more the individual heroes or The Avengers, the answer is the latter. Look at the sales SM sales top figures and it leads the box office with Batman that is also a top seller.
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Post by Algren on Nov 6, 2011 11:33:16 GMT -6
^But never before this way. Adjust X3 and you get 284M and add for 3D and IMAX and you get to 300M+ Come on Neo, you've been around a bit, you know you can't just do that. 3D doesn't add anymore to grosses of movies. People pay more for their ticket, because of that less people go, but they still make the same. Internationally, it's different, 3D is still popular to the extent where people do not care about money, but in the US, people aren't OTT about 3D anymore. |
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Post by Heretic on Nov 6, 2011 12:48:57 GMT -6
Nah. 115/250.
Iron Man 2 was awful, and it's not like any of the super-hero movies last year were raved about, or blew up at the BO.
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Post by kayumanggames on Nov 6, 2011 13:56:33 GMT -6
THE AVENGERS is a team. Not just loads of characters.
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Post by tommycruise on Nov 6, 2011 17:39:44 GMT -6
In but just barely, this looks like it will be extremeely frontloaded, so a 2.4 multiplier at best.
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Post by tommyb on Nov 6, 2011 18:22:31 GMT -6
^But never before this way. What way? It's the same way...big budget, uber-hyped, polished mega-tentpoles. Nothing we haven't seen before. Comic book sales numbers are minuscule, compared to numbers in all other areas of entertainment. A drop in the bucket fueled by certain creators (mostly Bendis, currently). But popularity in comic book form doesn't affect box office necessarily or viceversa. In fact, no single superhero film has had a lasting, enduring effect in comic book sales, and even those films that flop do not affect comic book titles (The comic book Batman always sold well, even after Batman & Robin stinked up movie screens) Heck, the single best-selling comic book issue ever was the first issue of that nineties X-men reboot (selling in the actuals millions), and still, it was Batman, in 2008, who had the biggest-grossing superhero film ever. I truly want The Avengers to be a hit, and it will most likely be. But it will be one of those garden-variety superhero hits, like Captain America, Thor, Daredevil, Ghost Rider, et al. The kind of hit film that mainstream audiences don't really take to. God bless Marvel, because we know they'll do their darn best to push it into blockbuster status, but will it be the kind of blockbuster that captures the imagination of the media and audiences after it comes out? I doubt it. |
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